I struggle, though, to wonder how was "Bart, the stunt bear" raised and trained by Mr. Sues(sp) able to never injure anybody who came into his beautiful path and star along side of Hollywood's A listers and be literally a 1000 pound teddy bear in real life? As someone who hunts bear, the details of this story are beyond chilling. That speaks volumes yet give yourself some credit for a remarkable work. Food was found in the camp secured in 4 or 5 metal bear proof canisters, as well as open snack food found untouched inside the sleeping tent. Apparently either Tim had asked Amie to turn the camera on, or Amie just turned it on out of reflex. Some readers may find the following information and examination disturbing. I found this name early with a small description of what happened while watching some videosabout into the wild, I decided to look further into it. Apparently my horses can hear a heartbeat from x distance. Bravo and I'd love to read other things you've written/researched. The two troopers, who had arrived at this point, as well as Willy Fulton, begin yelling at the bear to get out!. Once the bear had driven Amie off, I believe the bears predatory instincts took over and decided to drag Tim off to a more secure area after Amie returned and began aggressively attacking it with the frying pan, just as the bear would have done when dealing with other more dominant bears and a freshly caught salmon or moose calf. (Van Daele 2004, National Park Service 2003)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_16',112,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-medrectangle-4-0'); In late June 2003, Tim and Amie arrive in Katmai and set camp at Hallo Bay, in what Tim referred to as the Sanctuary. MEN are supposed to, since Time Immemorial, PROTECT Those in Our Charge from EXACTLY THIS KIND OF DANGER. "Me thinks if you cared for the person you were with would be, "RUN LIKE HELL!! Nope, No Sympathy for HIM. I dont believe this for a minute. If I came out, they scattered. They are incredibly timid and will not allow you to see them. The biggest problem was trying to get anywhere near them. Your voice is beautiful! We all hope when our time comes that it will be peaceful. Be safe, be true to you, enjoy your journey. There are several books that have already been published, much too early in my opinion, and before most of the information I have been able to uncover has been released, all with their own theories and speculation. The attack and killings took place in camp the night before Willy Fulton flew in to pick Tim and Amie up. His rants and fits were indicative of that age bracket. I no he hiding from PS and reason why he probably didnt. Having the presence of mind to turn a camera on with a bear just outside of a thin tent wall could only come from repetition, from someone who had done it many times. Bears have instincts like humans. Nine out of ten children who are molested never speak of the horrors they lived through. Two tents were discovered, one for gear and the main tent used for sleeping. Just hold your arm out, far enough away that the dog will need to take a step forward to smell you, and when that happens, if some licking and/or tail wagging, then you can pet, but if barking or angry/aggressive, move your arm back to your side and move away, and never ever grab any animal around the neck, not ever, you understand that? Showed me all of the aftermath of him and his wife, except the wife was just a jump scare of the exorcist. Andrews Airways Pilot. The salmon run was at its end, and the river that flowed through the grizzly maze contained the last remaining salmon of the year. But from what I observed, is that Tim had an addictive behavior. In some strange way, I dont think he ever thought that these apex predators would ever harm him, that is a mistake a person only makes once. Leave the party, going to your car, and there one is. I think by him repeatedly saying this is his mental forethought you are not gay. I feel like his addictions certainly attribute self-medication. Not only that, but there are clues hidden in his childhood. And from what I read, no one has a degree in this field or even a related one. Bears in Katmai National Park typically begin to den sometime in October or November and go into hyperpagia in early September, as they try to gain as much weight as possible prior to denning by mass feeding. I will also say shame on him, for dragging Aimee into it (her fault too, no doubt), and adding three extra bodies to the death toll (TT + (Aimee + 2 other bears)).Because of his disregard and disrespect for mother nature, 2 bears were killed just so ppl could investigate the "murder" scene. She trusted TT, against her own instincts towards the end, and sadly paid the ultimate price.Great article about a sad and fascinating event. During this period, Tims cries and pleadings can be heard for two-thirds of that time. Nature is cruel. Ive camped many nights in bear country and I never carried bear spray. I think he was only dumb af. Screw them. Also, with this article penned by "Administrator" this limits the help you can be for those of us who wish to continue to learn more about (and learn from) this sad event. I like how you are modest and state that you partly wrote the article to defer others from profiting from these two the couple's deaths. Is there any pictures of the aftermath? 2006, Discovery Channel Special, on camera interview. 2006, Discovery Channel Special, on camera interview. Absolutely brilliant work. The audio portion of this video tape lasts roughly 6 minutes. What a red neck a#$ who, although had his views refused to state the other's views with a shred of dignity even, at least for saying Treadwell did love these bear's but was, sadly, misinformed perhaps from having no formal education or training on these majestic beings. The tapes, which capture the sounds of Timothy and Huguenard's deaths, are described by Mirror as being rather gory. The Pioneer awoke in the middle of the night to his horses screaming in the barn. What caused the first fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park history? Had rounded a corner, surprised a rattler, rattles, scares horse, rears, she is thrown off back, concussion and also temporary blindness for about six days. Now my take. Tim leaves the tent and walks away from the tent and towards the bear. I can say without a doubt that is a Horrible way to go from all Ive researched, I like you , hope Amie didnt have to endure what Tim did. I really appreciate it. Timothy Treadwell was the sort of guy most Alaskans loved to hate. I just watched the second documentary (Herzog's), and it was quite disturbing. I watched Grizzly Man 2 times and some things popped up as suspicious and I will say this about Tim. (Tim Treadwell)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-2','ezslot_13',130,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-2-0'); The true hero of this sad tale is of course Amie Huguenard, the one person in this saga that we know so little about. Treadwell was, and did, none of these. It could be as simple as; Being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I've read just about everything about this incident and it really just sums up to a delusional man with "no family", claiming to protect bears, gets himself killed and his gf and two bears because he doesn't understand nor respects wild life. Your analysis helped greatly, thanks again.On a separate note, I saw that you worked at Yellowstone, and wanted to mention that my Father, Wayne, rode out with Dave Phillips MANY years ago (after college) before going off to medical school (Dave Phillips became a Park Ranger). He lived with the grizzly bears of Katmai . George reeves autopsy photos wallpapers (George reeves autopsy photos wallpapers). A greater idiot, I charged the guy.He shot me in the chest but I still played grizzly bear, running him down and beating the crap out of him.Stupid because I could have gotten another passport. A final note on the movie Grizzly Man. Maybe it was willful ignorance but having so many close calls leads me to think that although he didn't intentionally cause Amie's death he certainly contributed to it and failed to protect her from the bears.If TT were still alive I believe he would want us all to focus on the extremely threatened polar bears and to help them survive after man has melted the sea ice that the bears use to catch their prey, seals. The bear had literally carried thehorse off walking on its hind legs. Ranger Gilliland states that he was standing at the top of the knoll about 10 feet from the mound containing Amie, looking around when he spots a large bear about 15 feet away walking up the same trail they had just hiked up, and the same trail that rangers Ellis and Dalrymple had just walked down. Very well writtne , thank you for writing such a wild piece about a wild perosn. Readers Digest. This bear was desperate for food and they were it. I believe your comment about Treadwell giving bears anthropomorphic qualities is 100% accurate. Movies or even documentaries have things added that are not fact. Votes: 13 24.1% Throw Salt on the Boyfriend, Run Like Hell! Thankyou for your efforts getting the story right. Polar bears will become extinct if we fail to act. Tim Treadwell was born in New York in 1957 as Timothy Dexter, the third of five children. Treadwell also frustrated park rangers because he refused to carry bear spray. Herzog, Werner. Rare in itself. There are no pictures from Timothy Treadwell's death. However, it is unknown whether bear #141 had ever gotten into or received some sort of food reward from humans. 1985, Bear Attacks, Their Causes and Avoidance: Lions & Burford Publishers. (Van Daele 2004). At Treadwells request the film crew contacted a charter service to pick him up. There is now a second fake version posted on UTube. Yeah most definitely, these day at least! Why would she as far away from it as he is? handgun begins to fire at about the same time rangers Gilliland and Dalrymple, who were each armed with 12 gauge shotguns loaded with slugs also begin to shoot at the bear. He specialties include biometry, ecology, ethology, anddynamics of wildlife populations. Certainly a horrible way of dying, Amy was brave no doubt about it. I spent five years studying wolves in the wild in Canada in the 1980's. However, examining the evidence shows that this was not the case entirely, but was a contributing factor. One scene that was not included in the movie was of Jewel Palovak and pilot Willy Fulton looking down on the decayed carcass of a young sub-adult bear. In video footage recovered from the camp, there was at least some video taken days or hours earlier, showing Amie sitting on the ground as a large bear sits behind her within 10 feet. 1998, Mark of the Grizzly: Falcon Press.249pp. So much in fact I was late turning on football this Sunday morning and that says ALOT. He was an old bear and Tim included footage of Quincy in the Grizzle Man Diaries, and Tim said they were great friends, which was sad, considering that Quincy was the old Grizzly bear that was identified by Jans as Bear 141, which had a lot of human flesh inside its stomach after the rangers killed it. For an almost forgot, don't know how much is born with versus the TV and film, but slap the child's hand when he or she reaches out to touch someone's dog. What in the hell are they thinking? Bears are beautiful wild animals. (Van Daele 2005, Readers Digest 2005). Pretty sure that is more your hang up than his. Read this article entire and thought it was well written, and also fair. (Fulton 2004), Likewise, after reviewing the video tape made by Tim 10 days before he was killed, it is now believed that bear #141 was a bear that Tim had named Ollie, the big old grumpy bear. Commercial aircraft fly over the polar bear habitat so chartered planes (or ships) could drop animal carcuses over the region until we can figure out how to cool our planet down to re-form the sea ice. (Hechtel 2003). The bear keeps its distance, and when it appears that this will be like any other encounter, Tim decides to tape at least the audio portion for use in future presentations, yelling out to Amie to turn the camera on, which startles the bear, who had been still up to this point, and triggers the attack. It is possible that this incident would have occurred no matter what precautions Tim and Amie might have taken. It is not benefiting from death, but rather valuing life. But after several trips to Yellowstone and watching how stupid tourists are around the bison, trying to pet them, climb on them or place their children on them, one has to wonder. Very possibly gay. Ever think the money could go to conservation? All my observations had to be done from a number of blinds set up near dens. I only hope that the end came quick for Amie. When I found out about this case I was wondering if there will be someday a truth - revealing moment in this case. Timothy Treadwell AKA The Grizzly Man Autopsy Photos LolaGal Apr 15, 2009 Timothy Treadwell AKA The Grizzly Man Autopsy Photos Grab a Frying Pan & Hit It on the Head! Needless to say they were pretty upset with me. I will have to find a way to follow your other writings as Im sure they are just as exciting and well written. It seemed so obvious to me. So rare to find these days. More on this below too) (Readers Digest 2005). ~ A True Story Of Love And Death In The Wilderness ~. The length of the tape (six minutes +) argues against it being Bear 141. Feel sad for his girlfriend thought, seems to me he dragged her to that life. (Liggett 2003). Tredwell is a New Yorker from Long Island. Tim Treadwell was born in New York in 1957 as Timothy Dexter, the third of five children. So, the challenge for the coastal grizzlies isnt dealing with people its competing for food. Look at how many idiots get killed driving drunk? Treadwell appears to have some prior encounters with bears, but his and his girlfriends arrival was untimely given that the parks food supply was less plentiful than typical during the season of their visit. As for the audio - the mother of either Timothy or his girlfriend owns it, and is not releasing it. 217pp. I bet he was deeply regretful, too, of not having at least some bear spray. Animals are capable to express and behave as does any human in very similar ways. Bears are more reluctant to attack multiple people than they are one lone individual. In his journal he wrote that he was often cold, hungry and tormented by insects, and that the first time he saw a grizzly it ran away. She never should have died that way. Treadwell is pictured here with Aimee Hugenard at Upper Kaflia Lake, less than 100 yards from where they would die a year later. Thinking wild animals were his best friends. Yes they're actually a lot like people. After watching the special airing of the movie Grizzly Man on the Discovery Channel February 4, 2006. Treadwell shouts, Come out here; Im being killed out here, at the beginning of the recording. (Ellis 2003, pg 5). And if your in Healy they ask or say dont pull a chris macanless. The grizzly bear is thought to have killed Timothy, a documentary filmmaker, and environmentalist, along with his partner Amie. Raised in the Rockies, surrounded by all wildlife, taught at an early age, never let your guard down and they are not your friends or pets. 2003 Park Service Incident Report; pages 1-9. I slowly raised up and looked around, only to discover that a family of 6 coyotes had moved in behind me, the adult alphas sitting within feet of me while the pups played nearby. When he investigatedin the light of day the barn door was torn open and one of his1500 to 2000 pound horses had been carried off. I am sure a select few know who wrote the above piece. Photo by Willie Fulton, courtesy Nick Jans. I know, Ive experienced it myself and I have seen folks give up high paying jobs just to be able to do it. He tested fate 1 too many times. The next voice is from Timothy as he screams Get out here! Who, even though horrified at the sights and sounds of Tim being eaten alive, stayed with a man she knew was hell bent on destruction, overcoming her fear and fought a thousand pound grizzly bear with nothing more than a frying pan for at least 6 minutes in an attempt to save her friend and lover Tim Treadwell. Or maybe, I was the food! But fail to study, learn,about their ways, Behaviors,thats a must before Confronting the objects. Herzog contends that the cameras lens was not opened in the documentary Grizzly Man.. Im gonna give it another listen now that you cleared this out, and put more focus into my original skepticism about the distances from the microphone to see what else i notice. Nikki catsouras autopsy photos wallpapers (Nikki catsouras autopsy photos wallpapers). This article really got me reading. I hope that in publishing this story online, that this will prevent those authors from profiting from Tim and Amies death. Willy Fulton drops the pair off on Sept. 29, 2003. 260pp. Tim exposed the bears appearing on tv may have even given hunters all over america the idea to hunt the 160 bears the PS allows to be killed in katmi and kodiak. I hope that the Park Service has more strict rules since then. Video and still camera equipment, also found at the site, were later analyzed by Alaska State Troopers where it was discovered that the last remaining 6 minutes of video tape, which was found still in the camera bag, had captured the sounds of the attack.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-1','ezslot_4',116,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-1-0'); The first sounds from the tape are from Amie, she sounds surprised and asks if its still out there. That somehow these same bears then want to get back at humans is just too far reaching. Jake Adelstein's wife, relatives, and kids, Tsukumo Sana: Who Was She Before Hololive? A sober recount of what might have happened. 2003 Scene Investigator. There were a lot of questions in my head.thanks to this article im clear.the only question i have is what really happened to Amy?why she die? Including two humans. Net Worth, Bio, Age, Parents, Relationship, Who Is Lorne MacFadyen? How ridiculous. Much as it would have done with a salmon or other food item when approached by other bears in the area. I had to wade through this entire article only to find theres no link to an audio file. But let's face it, no one deserves the kind of tormented life or death Timothy endured. Authorities have listened to it, and it's supposed to be horrible. Votes: 14 25.9% Run Like Hell! Tims friends claim that poaching goes on all the time and that Tim protected the bears while he was in Katmai, but if in fact there had been 6 bears poached after Tim was killed, I think we would have seen more conclusive evidence of this and probably the main reason why Werner did not include that particular scene in the movie. After barely graduating high school, Tim left for Southern California and ended up in Long Beach. The photographs of Amie Huguenards and Timothy Treadwells autopsies were pretty graphic and have not been made public. I noticed that he was very arrogant. 1992, The Bears of Yellowstone. modesty and still achieve this modestly by plainly, just once under the title, state your name. Thank you for your investigation. Individuals who have aggressively yelled at the bear, or thrown rocks or other objects to distract the bear, generally have then had time to move away to safety or, they drove the bear away with the first yell and aggressive action. At the same time, it would been feeling wrong to receive any money from it. Leave them be. Amie is cautious and afraid, the tent is a secure refuge in her mind. No Willy. Buuutthis is America, no bear spray, no heavy tools, nothing. the reason? Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you. I think this would clear a lot of his mental instability. 2003, AP Wire Interview. We had radio contact with Alaska State Troopers Hill and Jones, who were forced to park their plane 300 meters away and had to hike through the thick brush, so we elected to wait at the base of the hill until Troopers Hill and Jones could catch up. Very strange things happen in the backcountry when you are least expecting it. Soon after he arrived, he began working in restaurants while attending college on a swimming scholarship. Those are questions that will never be answered. I mean thats a real jem guess i broke the rules guy but im alive and kicking. According to Tim, as a teenager his home life disintegrated often getting stinking drunk and once smashed up the families car. (Herzog, Fallico 2004), Tim With The Grinch Lions Gate Films 2004. . Remember a cover is nice but a cover is not the book.. You did a well written report and most of us appreciate it. A six-minute recording of the bear mauling two of them was also found on the video camera that was recovered from the location of their dead bodies. Be aware and be smart. I think we all do. Ranger Ellis states that he turned and saw an adult bear moving toward the group about 20 feet away. All I wanted to do is listen to the six minute audio of Mr. Treadwell being eaten alive. Amie then walks over to Tim, and based on training in the hospital no doubt told Tim to lay still, but is then tested and driven away by the bear, and at this point in the attack I believe Tim realized that this was not a typical bear encounter, and that playing dead was not going to work and the wrong response, yelling at Amie to hit the bear!. Four garbage bags containing human remains were removed and flown out by helicopter. 2005, Trapped: The Life Of Timothy Treadwell; A Cry For Help, Schullery, Paul. Clearly the author is an expert as many educated readers may surmise but how do we know this and if we don't clearly know this,the article is weakened a bit. Whos to blame? He did what he believe. Watching bears and wolves in the wilderness is addicting. Bears are wild killers. You will hear a thousand opinions on gun forums.If you do the basic math, the physcis dictates the shorgun is a poor man's elephant gun. And I should also stress, that the footage in the video is extremely graphic in nature. Emery was on a charter flight over Hallo Bay in Katmai National Park with a film crew from National Geographic, when they spotted a guy on the ground desperately waving his arms. Nice writing, straight facts and authors feelings and opinions later also on point. I just don't like some of my behaviors during it. Huguenard quit her job on Jan. 31, 2003 and moved to Malibu where she was to start a new job after she and Tim returned for the winter. I am impressed with your work. And there could be a number of explanations for this one. By whom, I could never guess. As scheduled, at 2:00 PM on Monday October 6, 2003, air taxi pilot Willy Fulton from Andrew Airways arrives at Kaflia Lake to transport Tim and Amie out of the area for the year and is approached by a large brown bear. Just the meanest looking thing. He's a great lost. Maybe. It was posted to draw traffic to his UTube page. "But there was really no where to run.if she'd curled up in the tent and remained silent, the stench of the fag's carcass would have drawn other bears.Complete Cali airheadsnature loves us?no, nature is only the strong survive.I find it curious that the author cites Aimee as TT's lover?that cat was only a few clicks away from wearing a dress.lol. Watching him in that movie convinces me that he had the emotional and intellectual brain of a childnear retarded for his age. You also have quite a few sources, but what I'm really interested in is the incident report by Joel Ellis. as much as i would love to feed a bear & show them affection, i know that in doing so i could inadvertently harm the bear, or a human. Timothy Treadwell (born Timothy William Dexter; April 29, 1957 - October 5, 2003) was an American bear enthusiast, environmentalist, documentary filmmaker, and founder of the bear-protection organization Grizzly People. 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