But, years of playing the great man on stage can be a very powerful armor. Sigh. If you think about it, that was a planned get out of jail card planted around a few places quite expertly. Bars Hennessey series is excellent. Other tricks of such manipulators include drawing others into guilt-causing behavior, for instance using swear words casually or tossing around jokes about blow jobs. How does one explain it? Like you, quite a few of us have spent years studying it deeply. You are accountable). Be the one who is loving and kind in the midst of sorrow, showing us that you trust Jesus to bring something beautiful out of this pain. The first half of the book, written by Lynne Hybels, explores the early years of Willow Creek and the personal accounts behind one of this century's most . You just described me. In the meantime, Crossway is still publishing and selling C.J. 3) Their situation is, as Jack Nicholsons character says in the movie of the same name, As good as it gets.. Thus, the cottage industry that often accompanies or is an integral part of their ministry (sic) glides on, and the supposed spiritual.authority who is moving on is positioned to escape consequences and true rebuke. Bob Buckner. Why wait until now?? In 1974, Bill Hybels married Lynne while he was still a youth pastor. Wailing Wall-Satanic Ritual? I refuse to answer the question How many people have you led to Christ? That question has no place in our discussions. Only the Lord knows, way above my paygrade to say with any certainty, but observing fruits and the lack thereof is not above my paygrade. After all, women are not little children who have to run to daddy for every little bump up. Trying to encourage and create the best in everyone.. @ AbuseCrusher: They are not valid reasons. One does not mess with God and get away with it. Chicago Tribune article #5, by Manya Brachear Pashman. Will the newly installed Willow Creek pastoral leadership/management just put a proverbial 501(c)3 band-aid on an open sore and continue business as usual; now that there has been identified a large hole in this churchs ethical, moral and scriptural superstructure? Even our laws in the US lead to punishment o f one chooses to disobey them . Not one. the narcissists seeking to traumatize people into submission outnumber those who act out irresistible urges. It was alleged in an article of 'Chicago Tribune.' Further, the Chicago Tribune and Christianity Today too reported allegations about his misconduct. Who would believe any of it if it were not for the Ortbergs? Prestige of Willow Creek? Fine, however, increased accountability comes with this. Among the prominent U.S. and Palestinian church voices who spoke was Lynne Hybels, co-founder with her pastor husband Bill of the Chicago area Willow Creek Church, which itself spawned a . It is the private hotel rooms that can be dangerous. He pulled me aside and asked me if anything had happened. The church is one of the most attended churches in North America, with an average attendance of nearly 24,000 as of late 2018. Too many missed opportunities to do the right thing. Im not sure if Julie is a regular or not (I cant keep up), but a new Twitter account alerted me to that article as well, that is why I asked. One of the grandkids hugs on the yorkiepoo all the time. Scapegoats? It is also understandable why John and Nancy Ortbergs relationship with the Hybels took a nosedive. Hes clearly a narcissistic predator, and I feel so horrible for his victims, his family, and especially those for who the spell hasnt been broken yet and whom he will continue to abuse. Yes, we left HBC ourselves. Hybels condemned himself. At one mega, the pastors alleged other woman was the missions director. Willow Creek is worldly like most churches. And sadly most victims spend YEARS time trying to answer the question why they were targeted. They were forced to buy the package and become little Creekers in order to try and stay in the game. In response to that question: Was Hybels leading folks to Christ or to Hybels? Medical records are handled in this fashion. My bad for not being back in touch with you. I am NOT AMUSED! But one thing I know, we have a choice in our behaviors. The fact that just a bunch of us posting our opinions on blogs can cause such a ruckus tells me we are touching infected nerves.. I think Bill Hybels is an intelligent man. Thank goodness at least that at church when we pass the peace we literally clasp a hand briefly and say peace (literally that) and this is the entire procedure. Im not convinced that his view of hell can be called heresy. If any Pastor asked me to have a private, evening chat about leadership I would have looked like a leaf trembling in the wind. @ Law Prof: It can happen. To fellowship with other believers? I do. its all changed. That ill advised letter by Jodi is one example. The woman alleging an affair with Bill said that she was suicidal, both to Leanne and to Bill. She, too, encountered the Ambien excuse. I fund it demeaning to victims and I dont do demeaning here. : By Thriftbooks.com User, June 15, 2004 This is the greatest study bible that I have seen. Years ago, as a 23 yr. old a classroom assistant for a public high school in southern cali my boss wisely told me 1. Please take a look at the situation in 1 Coninthians 5. Just think what you could do with a well placed suggestion after taking Ambien. Exactly. . Its the evil person who masquerades as a good person. Really? Bill has been married to Lynn Hybels since 1974. The existence of an impartial documented history of 2 years worth of 1150 emails between Bill and the other woman is stark corroboration. So much! Leaders who walk in the dark are not representing Jesus but rather the same Devil the original Pharisees did. But only a few. Sadly, I feel confident that this has not infrequently been engineered by the profiteers running these circus-show churches. Refuse to settle for eloquent lechers. Then the man of God acts as if nothing happened.. Give me the bellicose jerks any time. You can trust Jesus and He is your perfect role model. They were powerful, influentual, respected leaders. Or, they quickly retract. In some jurisdictions and situations, it may lead to criminal charges for spoliation of evidence or perhaps even tampering of evidence. My problem with all of this is that I am no fan of or apologist for mega churches or mega stars of any stripe. We notice them! Glory to God. Dimensions: 0.6" x 5.4" x 8.0" Age Range: 18 years and up Paul Aurandt Jr. Best Study Bible! AFAIK they havent yet made any corrections or denials. I hope your eyes are one day opened. And Im 49, a loudmouth, professionally trained in safeguarding& so on. Thats only whats been reported. It doesnt matter what they were wearing, what they were drinking, etc. Be an individual. (3) A fifteen-minute phone conversation, also on April 6th, with the woman who made the confession, who had previously emailed Leanne three times that if her story went public she would deny it. That group togetherness thing costs big time. How is that not normal? Like Jesus, they healed people. The church Elders allowed Bill to stay in an unsupervised counseling relationship with her, while neither her husband nor Bills wife was made aware of the situation. He never fails you. No one wants to think their pastor is being inappropriate, so your brain just dismisses it. Willow Creek's stature in the Christian community may have also helped Lynne Hybels, Bill's wife. Why it was Bill Hybels! Dr George Simon Jr a clinical psychologist and writes about character disorder, manipulative personalities and malignant narcissism. If she ever blew the whistle on his evil-doing, he had prepared in advance the excuse he would give to the elders in his church: I had taken Ambien! PS Awkwardly I stayed and we talked for about twenty minutes. Is Bill Hybels still married? This reminds me of Bob Packwood, a former senator from my state. Not that hugs are linked to drugs; I am just meandering. Finally, we are told to have high standards for our teachers. Nothing would happen there. Listen to yourself, Brad! Wondering if the old frog in the pot was happening at the church, including John Ortberg. 1 comment about arms My bad for not being back in touch with you. It is in the section entitled, An inquiry begins, about halfway down the page. not for this long. So, yes, Id vouch for his legitimacy. Mahaney books. And it is *by design*! Read the Bible. I dont think the view of hell is really the issue for the church leaders highlighted here. I have often felt unconfident that the TWW team or people I have replied to in a comments thread at TWW have noticed my comments. Nothing can really tear down the church, as I think it was Law Prof that said, but people can get pretty mad when their fantasy of church and the people that promote that fantasy are shown to be very imperfect. If you think about it, that was a planned get out of jail card planted around a few places quite expertly. He then shared unfiltered thoughts about me, describing in great detail specific parts of my body he liked, and said he thought I was effusive, sexy and had great candor, mentioned what a promising leader I was, and he said. is lynne hybels still married to bill. Dee, I was wondering how you got him to do that gig. High five, yes, hug no. I also freely admit to hugging my cat till she meows at me to let her down. Have you read the stories of the great persecutions of the early church. Speak the Word when it is time and serve with love always. Why do one in three Christian marriages end in divorce? Jack wrote: She had no way of knowing of other incidents and we now see why. At what point did Nancy inform her husband? @ jackie: Yes, the ambien thing really bugs me. Because I handled it in the moment (As she did with her push away response to Hybels) And it worked. Of course not. Is there love afte. May God raise up more people like Josiah who tore down the high places and every high thing that exalted itself against the knowledge of God until Jesus becomes the only thing worshipped in the church. Its rarely what people are told to believe it is. There was also some sort of one world conspiracy deal. Not even the great prophets got such responses. I absolutely agree that the same exact methods are used on both ends of the spectrum. Alcohol made me do it (Perry Nobel) (ed deleted link). I understand why comments are moderated Im not criticizing. Nancy Ortberg remains affiliated as a board member and husband John Ortberg a prolific speaker, author and leader continues to return to be a guest speaker at Willow Creek for several years after they left Willow Creek? My husband was so proud that he got to met the Bill Hybels and was so happy that he got to talk to him and have his picture taken with Bill Hybels. And worse, to make rock stars of them? This is only the tip of the iceberg. Jesus was a grand act to follow, and the disciples did it right. Was Hybels intimating that The Ambien made me do it?. Shameful! But if you read Jodies clever rant, take ortberg name out of the picture and just think about what the culture was like there. Dont confuse the two. Now, you should go back and read about victims and try to learn why this open letter hurts real victims. Testimony of victims and witnesses is not gossip. Just Disgraceful. You get a time out. You watch a kid in a souped up car on the highway darting in and out at excessive speeds and say I hope he gets picked up.. That said, this is all so tragic. I highly recommend it, as well as his book, I dont understand the focus by this and other commenters on when did she tell her husband, When I got to his room, Bill had wine opened and waiting. Do you believe it is someone posing as her, or do you think she is in on it? I think thats true for some and not others. Dont work for Megas, folks. Its like a funhouse mirror of the Christianity I used to follow. Whats being destroyed is the idol worship of Bill Hybels. Hee hee. _____________________________________. We can all learn from this and make sure to teach your kids. No idea the the Bible says, Do the work of an evangelist! And, yes, some people dont come forward with their experiences for dozens of years. Take responsibility for your actions and the role you played! The founding couple died, and the board got rid of those naughty kids and grandkids. Church Discipline Does Bill Hybel teach future pastors how to get their IT departments to have special deals? They sounded clearly clueless about the price and pain that Hybels' behavior inflicted on his victims. Worshipers of men. And thats how you end up with an entire institution being transformed in a little over two decades. Ultimately only Willow Creek congregants can decide the fate of their church sad state of affairs with millions of dollars at stake. AT BEST its the Tu Quoque logical fallacy. Or perhaps I am not getting it that this is the official stand of the elders, as well as Hybels. Further, if a few women get run over in this situtation it is fine, and in other cases if a bunch of litlle boys get rapped, thats OK since in long run the positives outway the negatives. I agree. I have long been leery of Hybels (and other mega church pastors) because these guys are basically Christian rock stars and are treated accordingly. Its not a numbers game, its not like worldly sales with rainmakers and marketing and big hits. I double dog dare every Creeker to demand to see a detailed budget. Just wondering??? Why wait until now?? Ok. Read Paul on Mars hill. And Jesus does not need Willow Creek. See, here is the problem . OK. Lets just call it a deviation from the mainstream Christian view of hell. Hey WCCC, set up an 800 number with an outside firm so anyone with information can call without fear of being shamed on stage or in the press. I looked it up and way down on the list it says rarely it might cause some to do things they dont remember. And David C Cook did not remove Tullian Tchividjians books at the time, though when I checked just now, it appears the only one they carry is the biography of Billy Graham for which he wrote the foreword. On our travels last summer one of the high points for my husband was to attend Willow Creek Church. So, I have having network issues, and a IT person is working on my computer. No one walks away unascathed. Some of how he came across might also be that to some extent, he too has been a victim of at least some lies and misconstrued intentions. @ okrapod: The church is now thriving with new leadership, honoring Jesus instead of greedy indiscrete nepotism. So your mind overrides your gut. Or would he start looking for material for making a whip? Founding and Senior Pastor Bill Hybels preaches during a service at Willow Creek Community Church on Jan. 13, 2018, in South Barrington . Bill asked her to have me call when I got out. Why not go public 4 years ago?? I looked down at the author. Its the same thing my university wrings their hands over. Jesus healed that man and told Peter to stow it. Just without a Christianese coat of paint. I wonder if he knows? Though Lynne had intended to become a social worker, she did not hesitate to commit her life to church ministry, convinced that God has given the local church a clear mandate to address the needs of "the whole person in the whole world." Two publishers suspend publication of books by megachurch pastor Hybels in wake of misconduct allegations Tyndale House Publishers InterVarsity Press (Chicago Tribune). Maybe they could get Lee Strobel back to write another book The Case for Bill. I would assume these claims are multi million. So they were flying around the world together living it up on the giving units dimes. So what leadership position are you aspiring to; are you in competition with your own husband (me)? I dont know if you have any experience with megachurch staffs or not. When was the last time you led someone to Jesus? A former minister of mine would give the teenage girl side hugs, which put his hand in a place it shouldnt have been. She felt even more blessed when in 1985 Mr. Hybels and his wife invited her to move into their home, where she shared family dinners and vacations. Conferences in exotic locales, entitlement, accolades, a volunteer workforce that actually gives you 10% of their earnings. And then sometimes, you end up like me: done with it all, the system that props up people with give the title pastor, that is like fresh meat to the malignant narcissist. The sheer resources at these (mostly) mens disposal. The creep factor never ceases to amaze me. We experience the aftermath to this day. In 2001 my church began instituting #MLKWeekend in our annual church calendar, focusing on teachings of #MLK & the tragic legacy of systemic racism. The Spirit works, sometimes over decades, with friends and acquaintances. Its a very reasonable step for Mr Hybels publishers to at least suspend his books until a more independent investigation has been completed. I have been reading sex abuse stories for 9 years. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. The door was open. People we once thought of as reasonable become angry. My point is not so much whether this is right or wrong, but at the way this thing was done, yet is inaccurately perceived as a random event. The term sometimes used is secure email. No idea the the Bible says, Do the work of an evangelist! Only saying he did that for women sounds creepier, but he actually did that for everyone he was mentoring. If they were sent and stored in a encrypted format, then you would need the key to open them and read them. Remember Bill hybels stepped down. Other WCC members are posting this letter on fb. I wonder if her crisis of faith was after finding out about something shady Bill was doing? Once again, power is used to disrespect and mistreat others thereby inflicting invisible but very real, very painful wounds. Exit music: Its the attempt by pastors to do life together and facilitate relationship-building which will then hopefully anchor the visitor to the church and reduce dropouts and increase retention rates. 1 kiss Wherever my story takes me, however dark and difficult the theme, there is always some hope and redemption, not because readers like happy endings, but because I am an optimist at heart. My working hypothesis is that any man intent on seduction of women through grooming them for emotional intimacy and/or sexual involvement will sow in whatever field hes in and will also create or develop the platform that makes it possible to keep the flow of victims going. Yep. The retiring pastor calls it all collusion and lies. how many people worship Hybels instead of God. Yet, the faith grew in the midst of these awful circumstances. WHAT EVIDENCE? It was not well written It was a farce and all those behind it need to get a reality check. This was shortly after a truly awful Christianese Youth Group rap number (GANGSTAAAAAA!!!! I believe that God is convicting WCCs leadership. Why would we expect a follower of Hybels to be different from Hybels? That has got to be trans-species perversion right there. Yet, if this person is free to say what was done by J Ortberg and offer her (non-intimidated, threatened) perspective on it, how can she conflate that with others coming forward to offer a perspective on their experience? As a victim-advocate and blogger, I feel isolated because of my time zone. Who wants to stir that pot over something potentially ambiguous? #metoo. Then more examples came out. Are Lynn and Bill Hybels still married? @ Nancy2 (aka Kevlar): Wow. But it is the structure, really. 8 comments. Rather, I think it is their twisted view of both God and humanity. I cannot imagine the pain, the hurt. I know men who are capable of hugging without copping a feel. You are just nailing it. Soon as your back was turned, the mask flipped off like a light switch and there was only the contempt of the Predator gloating over the stupidity of his Prey. NB If anything uncomfortable happens again I will be saying something clearly to him & asking him to mind his manners. This is kind of my gig, you know. its definitely legit and very well written. For you cross land and sea to make a single convert, only to turn him into twice the Child of Hell as yourselves! @ Davis and Natasha: Some people left, but our church has been transformed. Kudos to these two publishers. I also took 3 years of Biblical Hebrew and 4.5 years of Koine Greek thats NT greek. I wonder if her crisis of faith was after finding out about something shady Bill was doing? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. That is a typical church response. Whats being destroyed is the idol worship of Bill Hybels. Whatever it is, its wrong-headed. Or is this site simply about wholesale condemnation, I am so glad to hear that you are well versed in the Scriptures. Mistletoe killing an oak, We saw the dirty laundry, the rebellious child, etc. I have seen it done for over 40 years now. Will the clay say to the potter, What are you doing? Or the thing you are making say, He has no hands ? Isaiah 45:9. There are no winners here. And then maybe they see it happening, confront the guy, he says understood and suddenly you and your husband are out of a job. The kids tried to sue the board to no avail. My answer is quite simple. @ Dee Parsons: Ever thought of switching to WordPress? [ https://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=28151%5D. i.e. But thats over the course of 42 years of ministry! If someone thinks so, tell me how. And actually, it was the Holy Spirit that empowered Peter to be so bold that made it happen. Bill Hybels stepped down. But I can certainly tell when a guy does it to cop a feel. Don calls men who abuse their female intimate partners skilled offenders. He was talking about how successful Sociopaths and Swindlers and Abusers are masters of Camouflage (and Misdirection)! However, there are a couple of things we cannot judge and this is what I believe what Scripture is talking about. It took celebrity to call out another celebrity because that is how that world works. I do not know the answer to this question but red flags are waving up, down and all around this situation. However, just noticed a mega the founding family kids were using as their cash cow, followed by sexual indiscretions. They were belittled and mocked if they tried to set boundaries or said they preferred not to be hugged. Jose has interviewed TOP CLASS Global Christian Leaders. Bill Hybels opens his eyes at dawn, rolls out of bed and lands on his knees. I believe the world is far more interested in Christians who know they are sinners and deal with it as opposed to Christians who are actively trying to keep the sin thing on the down low. Ummmmm Brad. Because your mind tells you this particular man YOU KNOW would never so you must be misjudging. Christianity is so intertwined with our society as the religion that the majority, if they dont believe, at least pay lip service to. This does not quite add up. Whats wrong with you women? Actually, those are the tools of the enemy, formerly called deception and it is THAT which God desires to rescue us from. Below, what to know about the Bill Hybels scandal. They did, however, write books, and traveled from local church to local church. How they must love what they do! Dee, my Sister Nancy Beach sent me this today. And what does Lynne Hybels think about all of this? Number of accusations (so far) available around the clock along with staff present to awswer questions, etc. I believe God will welcome Bill into heaven with open arms for the positive work he has done. My team of outsourced profs, quality tech people saw it, too. Paul was a tentmaker, so they had other jobs. We sat under their leadership at Willow Creek for several years and were sad when the Ortbergs left to California. Thats why its not overblown to discuss patterns of behavior over a 40 year period from different sources about a pastor who spent his career begging us all to look at me! My former abusive, cultish and abuser-friendly church was positively obsessed with unity. The pastor preached on it continually. I do, however, see how the dastardly could try and use the physical emotional responses to size up or groom a potential victim. Little bump up up with an entire institution being transformed in a place it shouldnt have been faith in! 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